Athletic Motion Golf- The Podcast

The Advice That's Secretly Ruining Your Swing!

• Mike Granato and Shaun Webb • Season 1 • Episode 194

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In today's Athletic Motion Golf podcast, Mike Granato & Shaun Webb discuss one of their biggest realizations from years of 3D data: your bad golf swing is much closer to a great one than you've been led to believe. Almost every move golfers think of as a major fault (the flip, the shift off the ball, the trail leg thrusting forward) is actually the natural, athletic movement done at the wrong time, not the opposite of what good players do.

The problem is that the instruction industry has spent years teaching the opposite. Take a player who flips and shaft-leans back, then tries to fix it by shoving the hands forward into 14 or 18 degrees of shaft lean, and you've sent them further from the truth, not closer. We get into why zero (or even 2 degrees back) is closer to the tour average than the extreme numbers golfers chase, why the rib-cracker and pinched-arm drills hurt more than they help, what Scott Hamilton says about taking shaft lean OUT of players, and why the club champions at every course are more lined up at impact than any of these forced positions. Plus: the Bryson divot photo everyone misreads, "science evolves one funeral at a time," Webb's Windows and the ranges that actually matter, and why every choice in your swing has a consequence.

Give yourself some grace, learn the good ranges, and be careful where you get your information.

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Chapters: 
00:00 Bad swings are closer to good swings than you think
00:35 How the instruction industry teaches the opposite
01:00 The flip vs forcing too much shaft lean forward
01:18 The natural athletic move done at the wrong time
01:46 The punch-shot method that ruined his release
02:34 Why pinching the ball between your arms is so bad
02:58 The rotating arm action of good players
03:20 Why he can't get under 10 degrees of shaft lean now
03:51 The "opposite" that's all over Instagram & YouTube
04:18 Club champions everywhere are lined up, not forward
04:42 Rory, Aaron Rai, and the straightest hitters
05:00 The bowed-wrist trend vs the best players
05:20 Where that method actually came from (a "look")
05:55 The rib-cracker drill (and the bruise as a badge)
06:29 Scott Hamilton: taking shaft lean OUT of players
06:45 The 135-foot-high 7-iron college kid
07:07 Why this one's personal (the locked lead arm)
07:28 The leg thrust: closer than pinning the trail leg back
08:14 The winners all make the same big movements
09:02 Too big a shift off the ball (still closer than you think)
09:20 "Rein it in, don't do the opposite"
09:30 The Arm Shark analogy for over-correcting
10:25 The clubface-matching-spine myth
11:00 The Bryson divot photo everyone misreads
11:32 The Ben Hogan rubber-tee photo
11:54 "Science evolves one funeral at a time"
12:50 Why zero shaft lean is closer to the tour average
13:35 Tour players who played themselves OFF tour
13:56 The food & starvation analogy
14:44 How this made them better teachers (leave more alone)
15:21 Webb's Windows: the ranges that matter
15:47 Rotation at impact: huge range, least correlation
16:12 Why 4 degrees of shaft lean beats 14 for most golfers
16:32 Be careful where you get your information
16:51 Why your drills leave "fingerprints" in your swing
17:32 Natural vs manufactured movement patterns
17:51 Give yourself grace, get a qualified eye
18:13 Learn the good ranges (2 to 8 degrees of shaft lean)
18:51 Choices and consequences

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